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Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Tuesday
B-day, read "Preludes" and post one question below. Ambitious A-day students can jump right in there as well, but you'll have to find the poem in the "EliotPack" to the right.
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In Eliot's poem he describes that everyone has their own state of consciousness and their own unique visions, relating to "the city." Are there certain visions that can not only be understood by the perceiver, but also by the wider mass of people as well? Or could this never happen?
In the first two stanzas, Eliot talks about the evening, then the morning. He abandons this in the last two stanzas moving to talk about a, "You" and then about his feelings. What do you think is his reasoning is for splitting up the focus between the first two and the last two stanzas?
Eliot has many references to time incorporated in this poem but the meaning is not entirely clear. Why do you think that Eliot includes time in this poem and what is its significance?
Throughout the poem, Eliot reuses references. For example, he refers to "streets" in different ways in about every stanza. What do you think Eliot's purpose of repetition was?
Eliot, in the first stanza, uses concrete objects, such as "chimney pots", "and lamps". In the last few he then transitions with more abstracts sentences, such as "His soul stretched", and "Infinitely suffering thing." Is there any reasoning for Eliot's transition from concrete to abstract? Is there a faint connection between fantasy and reality that is already destroyed?
Parts I and II go through an urban evening and morning. Part III then focuses in on "You", and the You's evening and morning. However, Part IV does not follow this. The focus shifts from "Him" to "eyes" to "I" to a "you" (however, this "you" seems to be separate from the "you" in Part III), and it does not move in sync with time as the previous parts. Why does Eliot make this shift in Part IV?
Eliot relates several points in the poem to a certain time of day, whether it be the evening or morning. What significance does this have on the message that Eliot is trying to portray in his poem?
Eliot speaks of you, him, and I throughout the poem. What is the purpose of him incorporating all three of these different people? Are there actually three different people?
Why does Eliot "pan" back and forth from the "passageways" and "furnished rooms" in the poem, while changing from day to night? Does this have an effect on the character that this poem portrays?
In T.S. Eliot's poem Preludes he spends the first 2 stanzas creating the setting. Why do you think he chose to do it this way instead of briefly setting up the setting and going to the characters of the poem
There are a lot of similarities in setting between "Preludes" and "Prufrock" with things like "empty streets", "burnt out ends", and "one night cheap hotels" with "in a thousand furnished rooms." Do you think that "Preludes" is setting the scene for the world in which Prufrock lives?
Why is the poem broken into 4 parts when the 1st and 2nd are so similar, like john said the first two set up the setting? Is there something special about using 4 parts in his poetry?
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In Eliot's poem he describes that everyone has their own state of consciousness and their own unique visions, relating to "the city." Are there certain visions that can not only be understood by the perceiver, but also by the wider mass of people as well? Or could this never happen?
In the first two stanzas, Eliot talks about the evening, then the morning. He abandons this in the last two stanzas moving to talk about a, "You" and then about his feelings. What do you think is his reasoning is for splitting up the focus between the first two and the last two stanzas?
Eliot has many references to time incorporated in this poem but the meaning is not entirely clear. Why do you think that Eliot includes time in this poem and what is its significance?
Throughout the poem, Eliot reuses references. For example, he refers to "streets" in different ways in about every stanza. What do you think Eliot's purpose of repetition was?
Eliot, in the first stanza, uses concrete objects, such as "chimney pots", "and lamps". In the last few he then transitions with more abstracts sentences, such as "His soul stretched", and "Infinitely suffering thing." Is there any reasoning for Eliot's transition from concrete to abstract? Is there a faint connection between fantasy and reality that is already destroyed?
Why do you think Eliot reffers so often to the sense of smell? Why this over other "easier" senses (sight or feeling)?
Why and for what reason does Eliot refer to hands and feet in every stanza where it seems to get really dark?
Parts I and II go through an urban evening and morning. Part III then focuses in on "You", and the You's evening and morning. However, Part IV does not follow this. The focus shifts from "Him" to "eyes" to "I" to a "you" (however, this "you" seems to be separate from the "you" in Part III), and it does not move in sync with time as the previous parts. Why does Eliot make this shift in Part IV?
Eliot relates several points in the poem to a certain time of day, whether it be the evening or morning. What significance does this have on the message that Eliot is trying to portray in his poem?
Eliot speaks of you, him, and I throughout the poem. What is the purpose of him incorporating all three of these different people? Are there actually three different people?
Why does Eliot "pan" back and forth from the "passageways" and "furnished rooms" in the poem, while changing from day to night? Does this have an effect on the character that this poem portrays?
In T.S. Eliot's poem Preludes he spends the first 2 stanzas creating the setting. Why do you think he chose to do it this way instead of briefly setting up the setting and going to the characters of the poem
There are a lot of similarities in setting between "Preludes" and "Prufrock" with things like "empty streets", "burnt out ends", and "one night cheap hotels" with "in a thousand furnished rooms." Do you think that "Preludes" is setting the scene for the world in which Prufrock lives?
Why is the poem broken into 4 parts when the 1st and 2nd are so similar, like john said the first two set up the setting? Is there something special about using 4 parts in his poetry?
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